J- If we can't secure our borders [North and South] then we are at a big disadvantage in the WOT.

S-Absolutely...but we're not talking about securing BOTH borders, are we? 

J-That's just the problem. "violating the border is against the law." We all know it's illegal but gee there are so many here we can't do this or that and deport them so just figure out some scheme to let them stay.

S-Jevica, let's not do the "breaking the law" bit...as I said before, America's founding fathers broke England's law...it's not the number of UNWANTED that is the problem...it's that these people ARE wanted by donating employers that have been squeezed by unions on one side and taxes and government red tape on the other.  The problem is that the GOP is NOT the majority and that most people do NOT want the employers to take their business (and jobs) to labor friendly Mexico or Canada.

J-That's just it they know we are not going to deport them or build a wall, why do they know this. Because it's what we should do.

S-Your side blew it.  Honest to God, the vitriolic hate and racist sounding language blew any chance at ever getting that Berlin type wall built.  (ie: The talk about "bringing disease" as though Whites did not almost destroy whole races (Hawaiians are one) when they came with their small pox, measles and other assorted plagues that many races had never heard of. ) It was unfair and hypocritical considering American's own past. 

J-We were told about this bill [and sometimes the opinion of the teller, pro or con] then I made up my mind that as written it's a bad bill. They lied to us [press, talk radio, by telling us what's in the bill?]

S-They lied when they told their listeners (and Congress) that they would be satisfied with a Hunter type wall but didn't tell you that it has been over a DECADE to build 14 miles...FOURTEEN miles Jevica...and it is STILL hung up in environmental law suits.  They lied when they told you that all they wanted was to take away the incentive to come here--by penalizing the employers and dismissed the HEFTY penalties of this bill by saying..."Oh we don't believe them."

EXCUSE ME???

They did admit to one truth...the whole thing was based on HEARSAY...what some "source" told Hugh.  It is the same kind of "responsible" reporting that crucified Miers as being "not qualified."

J-If you support the bill and keeping 15 to 20 million illegals here, and more with chain migration if the bill pases that's your right. I say if they come in contact with authorities send them back.

S-I don't support 15 or even ONE million illegals being here.  I have from day one been for separating the criminals from those that are filling an economic need.  Instead of sending everyone back without thought to the cost to our economy...how about stream lining the immigration procedures so that people CAN get in to work before they are too old to do so?

J-It may be another thing but it is their right, we disagree on this but I post and will tell anyone I disagree with Bush on this and other issues.

S-Jevica, I told you once that I thought your blog was important.  While others blog to rant (raises hand) and others want to convert people...your blog informs.  This is why I have taken time to write 2 blogs for you.  Disagree all you want Jevica but PLEASE remember that opinions have consequences.  The inability of people like you, who are not racist or idiots to control the extreme in your group has/will  hurt the GOP for decades.

You say you've been reading my blog...then you know how their vitriolic talk has effected me--and I suspect, a good portion of minorities.  Consider carefully the huge progress America has made in race and culture...do you really want to remind minority Americans what White "foreigners" have done in the past?

J-Sometimes I feel I'm the only one who supports Bush on the WOT and the only one who realizes who are enemy is and that they want to kill us. But we have to disagree on this. Sanity I like your blog and comments. Don't let those voices drive you out espouse your views on the issues.

S-Jevica...ask yourself WHY, why should you feel like the only one?  The RINO press...the people on TH...they KNEW what Bush stood for in 2000, 2002, 2004...why was the illegal immigration issue not the deal breaker it is TODAY?

We had tons of illegals coming in...we were fighting the same war in 2002 and 2004...as the Anchoress asks....why NOW?